NATO Aid to the Ukraine is not some knee jerk reaction to current events,there have been initiatives underway since independence in 1991,and especially since 2014,in the case of the UK under Operation Orbital. Several Latvians were arrested when they returned from fighting in the Ukraine they had been on the Russian side! Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. Pity we didnt keep developing the 6 system fitted to Tiger and Blake? See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki warned of human rights violations and war crimes if diplomacy failed and the Russian government went ahead with its plans. ', She said it mimicked the playbook used when Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula, and included social media disinformation to show Kiev as the instigator of violence. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. why? Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov is closely monitored by #SNMG1 ship HMS Portland in the North Sea on Jan. 9 #DeterandDefend #StrongerTogether pic.twitter.com/6DN7EmL7EO. Historical connections with Lvov/Lviv arguably Polish for some. This was at the request of the Australian Government. The Russian ships sheltered from bad weather within the Baie de Seine, Northern France, where Severn was joined by allied French navy ships and aircraft. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. EDIT spelling corrections. But do we have the money or willingness in the population to spend what money we have on defence rather than health or social services for example? Seems a bit left-field but the Swedes seem to be taking things seriously. Mr Scholz told reporters it was 'clear that there will be a high price to pay and that everything will have to be discussed should there be a military intervention in Ukraine'. "We can appeal to common sense, demand respect for international law, and if that doesn't work, we can bomb," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Russian news agencies. Spot on post! His views were backed by Labour leader Keir Starmerwho tweeted on Saturday: To protect our values and our security we must be steadfast in our opposition to Russian aggression. And even 2 or 3 Astute boats would give any fleet a serious headache. The proliferation of this capability within the new Russian Navy is profoundly changing its ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets. You have to look at the bigger picture, Russia, China and the Iranians are holding joint exercises in the Indian ocean, increased naval activity in the Arctic, My biggest concern is India and Pakistan. More info. Giles said some scenarios could involve long-range missile attacks or cyber-attacks targeting critical infrastructure. I think you overestimated Russias economy Ivan , its smaller than that nutty economy of Italys lol. It builds up its arsenal in one location to make the world think thats the location they are going to attack. The industry leader for online information for tax, accounting and finance professionals. Ukraine is not a NATO country, therefore Article 5 will not be called and NATO will not fight. I certainly do! All quotes delayed a minimum of 15 minutes. 'I am not ashamed to ask to help us with everything that is possible to avoid this war. 'We are asking for more, and we are expecting to have more,' Mr Prystaiko told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. Er, as infantry, I had all of 9 seconds according to the briefing table on the Majors desk reading down the list and RMP were given 36 hours; and the rest is history. Protect their own borders through forward defence. Kongsberg have said that it will also be fitted to NSM. 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'This of course would be the most costly economically, politically and in terms of human lives and that's probably why it's least likely,' Melvin said of an all-out invasion. Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps. Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. Mr Prystaiko also slammed Berlin for pushing ahead with the controversial Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline that will circumvent Ukraine. An good opportunity knoks coming soon, to sink the Russian fleets in the Med, lol!! F35 will be able to carry 8 of these missiles internally. Thats one of the reasons the JSM in particular is getting the BAe RF receiver. LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. The British destroyer visited the Ukrainian port of Odessa this week, where an agreement was signed for Britain to help upgrade Ukraine's navy. Germany was starved to death in WW1 by the blockade of the North sea and WW2 bomber command destroyed its industrial might. The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. So were Western economies corrupt, going back in time. Surely he loses more than he gains. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. faster working shipyards would help. A senior State Department official said: 'This is neither an exercise nor normal troop movement. We are in a potentially high risk scenario all it takes is a trigger point. Im all for countries determining their own choices, but I can see Putins concerns. And therein lies the fate of the world!! And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. You underestimate the Russian bear at your peril! Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. A string of government websites was hacked on Friday. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russias Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts General Sir Nick Carter has said. Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. We should grant him that and make it a reality. The US Putting a small number of troops in Ukraine is a line in the sand a powerful symbol of intent to the Russians of repucussions if they invade. The US Coast Guard said Wednesday it is monitoring a Russian ship near Hawaii. The Russian ships' 'highly irregular' movements sparked Swedish authorities to deploy hundreds of troops and armoured vehicles to the island of Gotland. Russian Navy ships can be seen in satellite imagery approaching the Ukrainian Coast. US is now flying in warlike items to Ukraine. Did he deserve any sympathy? That was 4 years ago after the initial push against ISIS was over. pic.twitter.com/NDzRz2MwqU, Ministry of Defence (@DefenceHQ) January 21, 2022. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". Blocking the straits is a far cry than just a few drone attacks. Several Squadrons of both Interceptor and Ground Attack aircraft from various NATO nations with beefed up on-ground defences and anti-aircraft units. Well on your point about coming to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way, I would disagree to an extent. Exercise still underway, they go to the Med when its finished. The comments below have not been moderated, By EFP is tripwire forces (and not many of them ie only 3 Battlegroups in total) to prevent Russian incursions into Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or rather to reassue the peoples of those countries they are not going to affect the Russo-Ukraine situaution. Working hard for your Master Putin, Hay! https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2018/02/chechen-military-police-return-syria-russia.html. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. I was considering calling them coffins but ill go with obsolete. and Which could be read either way. Dont we have typhoons in the Balkans and Romania? The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. Akin to RAF doing away with Meteor, ASRAAM and sticking to Mauser. Europe could and should commit itself to being more than a match for Russia if it had the balls. I think it is sad that Biden never got a shot at the Presidency a decade ago. I think not, and the point is that this illustrates that Nuclear Insurance works! Please review our, You need to be a subscriber to join the conversation. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. Wow so they first entered service about the same time as the Type 21s ! These vessels are more than likely head to Syria to onload stores. If NSM is good enough for USN & Germany its good enough for RN. Iran has already stepped up activities in the gulf region, recently attacked the UAE with drones from Yemen causing a few civilian casualties. Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. No, but it would be interesting to know what Circumstances would trigger that. Normally theres maybe half a dozen ships of the coast of California waiting to be unloaded, last I heard it was over 70. One of Russia's newest, most advanced warships - the Admiral Gorshkov - docked in Havana some 90 miles from the southern tip of Florida, amid Russia's warnings to the U.S. about deploying missiles near Russia, the Associated Press reported Monday. During the Cold War it became traditional to test the resolve of an incoming new American president with a manufactured crisis. As for the numbers unvaccinated, I know Putins trolls have been stoking that fire with conspiracy theories about the vaccines. He told officials the UK stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Baltic state a Nato ally. Except, Trump isnt the President, its the weak Biden who sits in the oval office and has for a wee while now. Dictators will at any cost hold onto power. The stark warning comes after two rounds of last ditch talks between the West and Russia failed to de-escalate the conflict which has threatened to bubble over since late last year. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Despite funding concerns Type 32 Frigate still planned, European deployment successfully completed by Royal Navy, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ , NATO battlegroup in Bulgaria reaches full capability, BBC announces new aircraft carrier documentary. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. And in the Western Military District, a missile regiment armed with S-400 Triumf mobile, surface-to-air missile system conducted electronic launches at a range in Leningrad region. Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. By teatime at least during the cold War the surface arm of the RN was given 7 days before lights out 6 days more than the RAF , only the Army faired better indefinitely if resupplied ? It would be a signal of intent to the Russians. Later versions have much better electronics and sensors developed with Israel. If Biden was was standing up to Putin hed use some of that military grunt they have. Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). I note that you seen to have accepted my comments on the US border debacle. Wallace should put his bloody foot down, overule objections and get an off the shelf system fitted PDQ. Pretty much what their President told them on the TV a couple of days ago. 'The different scenarios for how exactly Russia might seek to persuade the West to meet its (security) demands by punishing Kyiv don't even necessarily include a land incursion,' he said. Iran has been poking the region with a pointy stick for years now just to see what sort of rea tin they would get in return. Russkie pension, weekly bucket of spuds and one litre of 2 stroke. For other inquiries, Contact Us. Yes theyve probably done more to modernise than laggards such as Argentine or Germany, but in conventional terms the European members of NATO alone could militarily contain Russia without Americas help. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. The deployment was cited in Ukraine's intelligence report which said Belarus 'should be considered as a full-fledged theater of operations that Russia can use to expand aggression against Ukraine.'. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. On Wednesday, the State Departmentapprovedthe transfer of U.S.-made missiles from Baltic NATO members to Ukraine. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. I agree with your 10 year rule. French President Emmanuel Macron has offered to send troops to Romania., https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60077776. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. Comms on a dived Astute very limited. Thats if of the few Astutes we have arent already chasing their own Oscars or Yasen. Still better than a 4.5 gun. A source familiar with the Russian Defence Ministry's thinking said this was the most likely scenario if Moscow decided to attack, but that he was unaware of any such decision. Do you have a link on that drawdown, havent seen that comment before? At talks this week with the United States and NATO, Russia has sought security guarantees to defuse the crisis. 210 comments about a decades old routine RN escort operation. Ukraine didnt invent the weapons so im curious how much of them they could have used and ultimately maintained over time. If you were spending months in a bunker in a trench system in that climate I think it may well matter. The N Koreans are starving again. There is also a chance of that senario, Trouble is it is Trumps policies towards NATO ( even threatening to leave it) and distaste for Europe that has given the impetus to Putin to try this on. "There is nothing unusual here: it is commonplace, but this time the ship is equipped with the latest hypersonic rocket system Zircon, which has no match. Can you see hot winded Macron or blustering Boris doing that? For use in the littoral, these also need to be smart weapons, able to accurately discriminate between types of ships not good to go sinking the wrong ships! The Russians will only invade if they think they can get away with it and thicko Biden has given them the green light by saying he wont defend Ukraine. To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. Missile attacks would take advantage of Ukraine's weaker anti-missile defences. I have faith in the crews and TTPs, I have limited faith when the top brass dispense with offensive capabilities that the USN and every other major navy endorses. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. REUTERS/Sergey Smolentsev. 'They discussed U.S. and international security and economic assistance to Ukraine, and the Secretary expressed appreciation for Ukraines continued calls for a diplomatic solution, stressing the need for Ukrainian unity in the face of the Russian threat,' Price said. If anybody wants to do a deep dive into the political corruption the FBI has to tackle, I recommend bookmarking/following ericgarland on Twitter. Dont think its just down to initial build costs either, providing a crew for the kit and paying for them over the lifetime of the ship/s probably has a bearing on this issue too. he said. Estonia is sending Javelin anti-armor missiles while Latvia and Lithuania are sending Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and related equipment, according to a Friday statement by the countries defense ministers. I think ill have a drink now. But they need to be postured in way that showed the West meant business. However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. He wasnt kissing his backside so much when he scrapped the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty! Russia summoned the British ambassador in Moscow for a formal diplomatic scolding after the warship breached what the Kremlin says are its territorial waters but which Britain and most of the world say belong to Ukraine. Launch control was always in Moscow. The jams at US West Coast ports have been due to the global supply chain being out of whack. 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. The Iranians are being bombed at will. Who is bombing the Iranians? Its more difficult now given the numbers they have positioned. In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. You are right. "These aircraft posed no immediate threat to HMS Defender, but some of these manoeuvres were neither safe nor professional," Britain's Wallace said. Saying your putting your entire navy to sea simultaneously across every theatre you operate in is a bit of a red flag.. though considering the state of the Russian navy if even 25% of the ships leave harbour I will be surprised. The USA didnt pick UkraineRead more . Commander Ed Moss-Ward, HMS Portland's commanding officer, said: "Escorting warships in UK territorial waters and the adjacent sea areas is routine activity for the Royal Navy. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. and Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. Signalling to the Russian regime that we shall not tamely acquiesce should they escalate requires conventional hard power warships and aircraft as well as less conventional capabilities like cyber. Moscow has announced the 'successful' completion of tests on its Kinzhal - or Dagger - hypersonic missiles, which can carry nuclear or conventional weapons with a range of 1,250 miles, in the Arctic, though the weapons had been deployed with Russian forces ahead of the trials. The operation could begin with artillery, missile and air strikes on Ukrainian units in the south, and special forces units might seize bridges and railway junctions, allowing troops and tanks to advance, he said. Certainly, if small, but it isnt going to be sinking any frigates or destroyers let alone a cruiser many of which are being fitted with anti shell or missile weapons. It just shows the Ruskis have sleepers in the German armed forces. NOT, should have out an archer. H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. Or perhaps NATOs drive eastwards since the fall of communism might just be giving them sleepless nights! Russian deputy Defence Minister Alexander Fomin confirmed that the mission includes the relocation of two S-400 mobile surface to air missile battalions, a Pantsir-S battalion and 12 Su-35 fighters for the 'surprise' inspection and drills. The Americans have just sent their first shipment of Aid to the Ukraine what was sent was classed as LETHAL Aid. Im not sure to be honest. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. Really Ivan ? The only time there is a difference, is when a SM is deep, sprinting to a new position. People always seem to vastly underestimate the effectiveness of a medium gun. The same Russian warship has since conducted military drills in the Norwegian Sea, the Russian defence ministry announced. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. He wants to get some skin in the game like the West has had the past 20 years. Whilst we (NATO) wont be firing shots, theres a massive amount that can be done with regards to intelligence and weapon supply that, arguably should have been done a month ago. "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. It has a much wider capture angle. Without listing specific equipment plans General Carter hinted long-range precision rockets, air defence missiles and surveillance drones would be brought into service. Heavily armed Russian-backed separatists have controlled a swath of eastern Ukraine since 2014 and continue to exchange fire with Ukrainian government forces despite a 2015 ceasefire that ended major hostilities. "As I said, it has no equivalent in any country in the world. It remains unclear whether tanker Karma accidentally revealed its location. The British Army for starters needs a serious shake up and recapitalisation. It will take them at least a decade to begin to get off Putins apron strings. Actually, its an interesting point. The Coast Guard said the ship is . A Slava Class cruiser isnt going to be worried by any Wildcat, whilst ROEs mean that by the time Astutes have surfaced to receive comms the shooting has started and finished. 'How can we be given a chance to defend ourselves if you're not giving weapons? They may be old but the Russians have used some of them very hard on the Russia/Syria Syrian Express run. The phrase, and derivatives of the phrase . We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. General Carter also said the long anticipated Integrated Review of Foreign, Defence and Security policy, now expected in January, will herald the biggest shake-up of the army in a generation. Russia's warns Britain over navy confrontation, Raab: Russia being 'predictably inaccurate', Britain says it will always defend seafaring rights, Russia says London is sowing barefaced lies.
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